From: Macdonald Stainsby 
To: rad-green@lists.econ.utah.edu 
Subject: Re: [R-G] anti-war agitation and (1) the labor aristocracy, (2) socialism
Date: Monday, October 08, 2001 12:31 PM


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ben Seattle" 

>expression in such a naked form.  Barry has presented a formula
>for the complete demoralization of any would-be revolutionary
>element.  No one who maintains such a view over a prolonged
>period will be able to maintain a revolutionary perspective.

>US imperialism will be overthrown by the  _i_n_t_e_r_n_a_l_
>_f_a_c_t_o_r_  --by the actions of its working class--in alliance
>with the struggles of the working class and peoples of the rest
>of the world.  The labor aristocracy will move to the left at
>precisely that moment when large sections of serious activists
>conclude that the labor aristocracy is part of the enemy camp.

However Ben, given our track record (first world workers, that is) for activity
in opposing imperialism, you will of course not expect Third Worlders to sit
back and hold their breath waiting for American radicalism to swing forward and
vanquish the beast, right? I mean, you will understand that there are a few
points between here and there that a Chilean might find more attractive.

Macdonald


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